2019/07/19

Read BMW M5 E60 EDC17 with Kess v2 or Galletto v54?

Purpose & problem:
I have been remapping a 2006 BMW M5 E60.
I have heard the MPPS is not suitable for this so decided to buy a better tool.
Not sure if I should go for a Galletto v54 or the Kess V2.
Any advice would be great, ideally I would like to get the one that covers most cars via OBD.

Advice from users:
  1. Kess V2 is better solution.

  1. EDC17 safer to do on the frame, and some only.
    KESS and GALLETTO it is a good.
    If you buy a fake you never know what to do, and if at all something impute.

  1. Galletto works well for boot mode tricore

  1. For me both tools are doing a good JOB – Kess is china clone but i have an original one aswell. just need to update is to Master – because at the moment is SLAVE.
    FG Galleto V54 is Euro Clone and until now it never ever let me down . Anyway… what i figure it out is that the tools are good and work good but the laptop configuration is quite important.
    I use panasonic toughbook CF 19 and CF 52. – Never had a single problem with both of them .

  1. Buy a good galletto clone “EU” and no problems, very stable.

6.The fg have no cs correction in edc17 kess have .
Kess is better tool for no w.

  1. the kess is more better than fgtech mpps etc

  1. On MED17 with KESS can’t do full read. File is somehow encrypted. With Galletto is fine.

  1. My KESS is reworked and work great as original. I just say if I do full read (backup) the file is encrypted.

  1. Galletto works well with edc17,
    chinese kess no!

  1. Galletto is fine

  1. Galletto working fine

  1. GALLETTO works well in boot mode tricode

  1. I use both, Kess v2 clone + Galletto v54 clone. But i prefer v 54 only because user fredliness and good working stability, no chance to suspend writing file or something else. Kess little bit fussy, and to much moronresistant and used only if V54 will not handle it but in plus a lot better for gasoline engines. V54 in 80% still needs rework after buying but after that works perfect

  1. Buy both they are cheap enough get them reworked and then you have two good tools

  1. Earlier Galetto didn’t support MSS65 K-line ( E6x V10 Mpower ) . It can only read by CAN which is only LCI E6x . Not sure about kess and the latest Galletto version . Someone can double check please . Some chinese says kess is not working good with K-line .

  1. i think it’s better to have boot clone tools they works on many units, about this ecu i think fg is the Best

  1. Both of them have its pros and cons, it’s up to you to make decision.

  1. I like like KessV2 is Safe,to work with them.

  1. EU kess only sold by resellers of chinese clones…..do the maths
    buy both kess v2 and galletto v54 chinese clone tools, have a play, decide which you like best software wise
    have it reworked, job done
    galletto is compatible with more cars IMO kess is more user friendly

  1. Galletto working ok w/ sirius 32
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2019/06/30

Possible to use Ksuite 2.47 for BMW F-series?

Here are questions and answers about: Ksuite software on BMW F series cars.

i would like to do bmw F-series cars which i find on the k-suite 2.47, how do i approach it if the 2.47 is only for kess? the kess is only for obd tuning right? and the k-tag when u need to go directly in the ecu? the f-series are only possible to do directly to the ecu right?
You have to run K-Suite 2.23 when using KTAG and K-Suite 2.47 when using Kess v2 master.

Is there an actual benefit to 2.25 for ktag 7.020? I don’t see any new protocols.
The Ksuite 2.25 works perfectly with KTAG 7.020, is you don’t see anything new, you need a better copy

in the 2.47 under the options button and supported vehicles, if i check the kess menu it only shows E-series cars while under the k-tag menu it also shows F-series cars. 
got any ideas what i need to do F-series cars? are they availiable in the 2.25 through k-tag?
I think you don’t have the right good version including the newest dll and help files

with my k-tag 7.020, if i get k-suite v2.25 instead of the v2.23 should i then be able to do f-series cars? or do i need a different k-tag or what?
2.23 and 2.25 already does F series… look here: a good success http://blog.obdii365.com/2017/06/12/read-and-write-bmw-f10-edc17cp45-with-ktag/

since Ksuite 2.10, Ktag has the protocols for BMW series Fxx (2011-2015).
KTAG – Bootloader Tricore – 666
– Read: YES
– Write: YES
– Checksum Correction: YES
– Direct Connection: 14P600KT02, 144300T105
– Connection using the positioning frame: 14P800ADB1, 14P600KT03, 14P600KT04, 144300T105
ModelModel NameModel FamilyEngineEngine CodeKWHPFuelMYECUECU Version
Bmw1 Series(F20)114d 1600 DN47D16A7095Diesel2011BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw1 Series(F20)116d 2000 DN47D20C85116Diesel2011BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw1 Series(F20)116d ed 1600 DN47D16A85116Diesel2011BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw1 Series(F20)118d 2000 DN47D20C105143Diesel2011BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw1 Series(F20)120d 2000 DN47D20C135184Diesel2011BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw1 Series(F20)125d 2000 DN47D20D160218Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw1 Series(F21)114d 1600 DN47D16A7095Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw1 Series(F21)116d 2000 DN47D20C85116Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw1 Series(F21)116d ed 1600 DN47D16A85116Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw1 Series(F21)118d 2000 DN47D20C105143Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw1 Series(F21)120d 2000 DN47D20C135184Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw1 Series(F21)125d 2000 DN47D20D160218Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw2 Series(F22)218d 2000 DN47D20C105143Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw2 Series(F22)220d 2000 DN47D20C135184Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw2 Series(F22)225d 2000 DN47D20D160218Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw3 Series(F30)316d 2000 DN47D20C85116Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw3 Series(F30)318d 2000 DN47D20C105143Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw3 Series(F30)320d 2000 DN47D20C135184Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw3 Series(F30)320d ed 2000 DN47D20C120163Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw3 Series(F30)325d 2000 DN47D20C160218Diesel2013BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw3 Series(F30)330d 3000 DN57D30A190258Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw3 Series(F30)335d 3000 DN57D30B230313Diesel2013BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw3 Series(F31)316d 2000 DN47D20C85116Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw3 Series(F31)318d 2000 DN47D20C105143Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw3 Series(F31)320d 2000 DN47D20C135184Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw3 Series(F31)325d 2000 DN47D20C160218Diesel2013BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw3 Series(F31)330d 3000 DN57D30A190258Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C56
Bmw3 Series(F31)335d 3000 DN57D30B230313Diesel2013BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw3 Series(F34)318d GT 2000 DN47D20C105143Diesel2013BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw3 Series(F34)320d GT 2000 DN47D20C135184Diesel2013BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw3 Series(F34)325d GT 2000 DN47D20D160218Diesel2013BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw3 Series(F34)330d GT 3000 DN57D30A190258Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C56
Bmw3 Series(F34)335d GT 3000 DN57D30B230313Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw4 Series(F32)420d 2000 DN47D20C135184Diesel2013BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw4 Series(F32)425d 2000 DN47D20D160218Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw4 Series(F32)430d 3000 DN57D30A190258Diesel2013BOSCHEDC17C56
Bmw4 Series(F32)435d 3000 DN57D30B230313Diesel2013BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw4 Series(F33)420d 2000 DN47D20C135184Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw4 Series(F33)425d 2000 DN47D20D160218Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw4 Series(F33)430d 3000 DN57D30A190258Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C56
Bmw4 Series(F33)435d 3000 DN57D30B230313Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw4 Series(F36)418d 2000 DN47D20C105143Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw4 Series(F36)420d 2000 DN47D20C135184Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw4 Series(F36)435d 3000 DN57D30B230313Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw5 Series(F07)520d GT 2000 DN47D20C135184Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw5 Series(F07)530d GT 3000 DN57D30A155211Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw5 Series(F07)530d GT 3000 DN57D30A190258Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C56
Bmw5 Series(F07)535d GT 3000 DN57D30B230313Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw5 Series(F10)518d 2000 DN47D20C105143Diesel2013BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw5 Series(F10)518d 2000 DB47D20A110150Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw5 Series(F10)520d 2000 DN47D20C135184Diesel2010BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw5 Series(F10)520d 2000 DB47D20A140190Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw5 Series(F10)520d ed 2000 DN47D20C135184Diesel2011BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw5 Series(F10)525d 2000 DN47D20D160218Diesel2011BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw5 Series(F10)525d 3000 DN57D30A150204Diesel2010BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw5 Series(F10)530d 3000 DN57D30A180245Diesel2010BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw5 Series(F10)535d 3000 DN57D30B220299Diesel2010BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw5 Series(F10)535d 3000 DN57D30B230313Diesel2011BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw5 Series(F10)550d M 3000 DN57D30C280381Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw5 Series(F11)518d 2000 DN47D20C105143Diesel2013BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw5 Series(F11)518d 2000 DB47D20A110150Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw5 Series(F11)520d 2000 DN47D20C135184Diesel2010BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw5 Series(F11)520d 2000 DB47D20A140190Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C50
Bmw5 Series(F11)525d 2000 DN47D20D160218Diesel2011BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw5 Series(F11)525d 3000 DN57D30A150204Diesel2010BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw5 Series(F11)530d 3000 DN57D30A180245Diesel2010BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw5 Series(F11)530d 3000 DN57D30A190258Diesel2011BOSCHEDC17C56
Bmw5 Series(F11)535d 3000 DN57D30B220299Diesel2010BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw5 Series(F11)550d M 3000 DN57D30C280381Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw6 Series(F06)640d 3000 DN57D30B230313Petrol2012BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw6 Series(F12)640d 3000 DN57D30B230313Petrol2011BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw6 Series(F13)640d 3000 DN57D30B230313Petrol2011BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw7 Series(F01)730d 3000 DM57D30A180245Diesel2008BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw7 Series(F01)730d 3000 DM57D30A190258Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C56
Bmw7 Series(F01)740d 3000 DN57D30B230313Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw7 Series(F01)750d 3000 DN57D30C280381Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17CP45
Bmw7 Series(F02)730d 3000 DN57D30A180245Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17CP45
BmwX Series(F15)X5 30d 3000 DN57D30A190258Diesel2013BOSCHEDC17C56
BmwX Series(F16)X6 30d 3000 DN57D30A190258Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C56
BmwX Series(F16)X6 40d 3000 DN57D30B230313Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C56
BmwX Series(F25)X3 18d 2000 DN47D20C105143Diesel2012BOSCHEDC17C50
BmwX Series(F25)X3 18d 2000 DB47D20A110150Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C50
BmwX Series(F25)X3 18d 2000 DN47D20C110150Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C50
BmwX Series(F25)X3 20d 2000 DB47D20C135184Diesel2010BOSCHEDC17C50
BmwX Series(F25)X3 20d 2000 DB47D20A140190Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C50
BmwX Series(F25)X3 30d 3000 DN57D30A190258Diesel2011BOSCHEDC17C56
BmwX Series(F25)X3 35d 3000 DN57D30B230313Diesel2011BOSCHEDC17CP45
BmwX Series(F26)X4 20d 2000 DB47D20A140190Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C50
BmwX Series(F26)X4 30d 3000 DN57D30A190258Diesel2014BOSCHEDC17C56


FYI, that’s not the full list.
more F-series models are updated to new versions (after v210)
pls go to http://www.obdii365.com/ to check if your F-series car is covered or not.

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